[LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position
Boyd Smith
boydw.smith at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 31 19:26:26 CST 2013
I am ok with that.
bws
From: Adrien Monteleone <chairman at lplouisiana.org>
To: scc at lplouisiana.org
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position
If there is no objection then, I withdraw my motion.
Though it had the votes to pass as is, I would prefer if there were more agreement on the question.
And please note, I am not doing this to push anyone to step aside from their current positions. Regardless of if we have a fundraiser or not, we still need a Finance chair. The position has many hats, as does the committee. Most important of these in this regard is oversight of party fundraising activities, which would include oversight of a hired fundraiser.
I will speak with Vinson some more, and set up an interview and formal vote at the April meeting.
In Liberty,
Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 3:46 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion.
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>At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser.
>I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser.
>I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser.
>Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way.
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>I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting.
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>--Wes Benedict
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>Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM:
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>Thank you Wes,
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>>Vote Received.
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>>As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well.
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>>I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification.
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>>As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs.
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>>As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have.
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>>I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party.
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>>There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked)
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>>If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there.
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>>We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April.
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>>In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities.
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>>I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote.
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>>You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter.
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>>In Liberty,
Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
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>>I am voting nay on this.
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>>>I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget.
>>>I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission.
>>>I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote.
>>>I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined.
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>>>However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver.
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>>>I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months.
>>>The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission.
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>>>I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others.
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>>>Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of.
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>>>I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation.
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>>>However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this.
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>>>With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon.
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>>>--Wes Benedict - Finance Officer
>>>Libertarian Party of Louisiana
>>>512-659-8896
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>>>Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM:
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>>>Thank you Wes,
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>>>>Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction.
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>>>>Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite.
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>>>>Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands.
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>>>>Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser.
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>>>>I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so.
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>>>>From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong.
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>>>>At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be paid ≈ $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time.
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>>>>He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right)
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>>>>That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position.
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>>>>Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting.
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>>>>The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson.
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>>>>We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him.
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>>>>Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget.
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>>>>In Liberty,
Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
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>>>>I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue.
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>>>>>At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.)
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>>>>>I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser.
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>>>>>For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500.
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>>>>>If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things.
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>>>>>--Wes Benedict
>>>>>Finance Officer
>>>>>512-659-8896
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>>>>>Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM:
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>>>>>To all,
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>>>>>>We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser.
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>>>>>>My apologies for not including it in January's agenda.
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>>>>>>Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party.
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>>>>>>I suggest we take up the issue ASAP.
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>>>>>>I'll get the ball rolling with this then:
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>>>>>>Motion -
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>>>>>>That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013.
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>>>>>>Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this.
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>>>>>>--
In Liberty,
Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
Libertarian Party of Louisiana
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