[LPL Board of Directors] Advertising
Boyd Smith
boydw.smith at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 10 20:20:40 CDT 2013
I have CD 6 covered. Awaiting permission from the candidate to tell the board.
The next special will most likely be the Orleans Parish Sheriff. Cassidy will not have to step down to run as the elections are concurrent. He just cannot run for both seats at the same time.
bws
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From: Adrien Monteleone <chairman at lplouisiana.org>
To: scc at lplouisiana.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising
Not incidentally,
We missed a prime opportunity to hit the ground running and
follow up our Congressional slate with a slew of local offices
last weekend.
That was opportunity lost, and after lots of work on your part
Boyd, because some people decided for themselves and thus for
the party, that they had other priorities.
We can't skip ANY elections. We certainly won't be able to
recruit someone into every race. But we also should never, from
this point forward, sit out an entire election.
Already, a tight eye should be kept on special election
possibilities for the fall, and work needs to start now for the
known races in 2014.
We don't have a date yet, but we should expect a special
election for CD6 when Cassidy steps down to challenge Landrieu.
Running candidates is advertisement. It's brand identification.
It energizes the base and builds interest in the party. It is
not optional. We are a political party, not a social club.
-- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
Libertarian Party of Louisiana
On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote:
When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I meant just that. That it needs to be an agenda item. I am not sure how that would be done. I only know to say "Here is an issue we need to be talking about." We can not wait till too late to have a plan in place.
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>It is like the Army. There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking any country on earth. Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly and so well? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were updated regularly. The closer we got to having to do something the more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence.
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>There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on earth and several places that are not countries. Are there even plans to take care of a president who gets way off the beam? I do not know for sure. But I would be willing to bet good money that there are such plans.
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>The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or 20,000. We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of mouth can reach. When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and knows how much we support the 2nd amendment. When we have 10,000 registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things so I may as well stop because I am all by myself."
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>And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion actually offends some people. Well too bad! It is what organizations do. It is what political parties do. They plan. They discuss and they try to have ideas.
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>bws
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>From: Reed Ebarb mailto:secretary at lplouisiana.org
>To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org
>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising
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>Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we
are not
>providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her
to take a full
>time job where she makes what she wants and she can still
volunteer to
>help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough,
that sounds like
>the best course. This is especially true now that Mr.
Hayes' pledges are
>backing out.
>
>> Boyd,
>>
>> There are some other considerations here as well. Of
particular note is
>> what is in the contract that we are paying for and
what is being
>> provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much
outstanding and
>> great, about what is being provided. The sticking
point is we set a
>> price for certain services, this list does not
include the work the ED
>> is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed
noted, we don't have
>> the funding levels to support the work actually being
done in the
>> current fashion, and now that pledges are backing
out, that foundation
>> is even more tenuous.
>>
>> The present contract payment level is unsustainable
at present. It was
>> only offered to secure a signature. We operated on
dangerous ground for
>> 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if
that time would be
>> sufficient to establish an "employer/employee"
relationship under the
>> law. We don't need that headache and all that comes
with it.
>>
>> That isn't going to happen again.
>>
>> My records and projections show our original amount
of $200-$250 a week
>> for what we were asking for is right on target for
the upper limit of
>> what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself
and Mr. Ebarb
>> shows what we were specifically contracting for
likely falls even less
>> than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference
would provide more
>> cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we
set out in the
>> contract accomplished.
>>
>> The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? -
it is.
>>
>> The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't.
>>
>> The bigger issue, the one that will control the final
decision - is what
>> do we really need that matches what we can afford?
And what were we
>> asking for and what were we getting?
>>
>> I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability
to organize people
>> into functioning parish affiliates. She's done
excellent in that
>> regard. And, I understand she needs full time
employment.
>>
>> The problem is we not only didn't task her with being
responsible for
>> organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed
several times that
>> was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway
- she was doing so
>> as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms
still had to be
>> fulfilled - they could not be put on the back
burner. I even had to
>> re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on
this point.
>>
>> The problem is we simply are not in a position to
offer to pay someone
>> $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer
part-time work and
>> part-time pay at about half or less than that amount.
>>
>> We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to
eventually. But
>> we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into
a full sprint.
>>
>>
>> -- In Liberty,
>>
>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms.
Adams' money. She is
>>> worth it and we need to hold on to her.
Especially with losing you
>>> and Wes concentrating on EBR.
>>> bws
>>> *From:* Reed Ebarb <secretary at lplouisiana.org>
>>> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors
<scc at lplouisiana.org>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors]
Advertising
>>>
>>> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next
meeting, lets rework our
>>> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can
put more money into
>>> advertising.
>>>
>>> > I agree 100%.
>>> >
>>> > -- In Liberty,
>>> >
>>> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman
>>> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana
>>> >
>>> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote:
>>> >> Here is an issue that we are going to
have to make room for in the
>>> >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much
as I can to make the part
>>> >> that may take up time that we need take
as little time as possible
>>> and
>>> >> to make it be as painless and actually
productive as possible. But
>>> >> the issue relates to growing the party
and performing advertising.
>>> >> We will need to engage in actual
advertising in some markets to both
>>> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local
base. We will also likely
>>> have
>>> >> to engage in advertising to gather the
support/people necessary to
>>> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is
one of those special cases.
>>> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting
till we have 64 or even 10 PECs
>>> >> formed. There is a momentum that we
have to maintain to continue
>>> >> building the party. We are at 7550
(approximately) we could very
>>> well
>>> >> get to 8500 from events like the
Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and
>>> >> even word of mouth. But, I think the
limit of that is going to be
>>> >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to
become a viable force in this
>>> state
>>> >> for politics, for reform, and for
liberty, we will need to get to
>>> >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a
start. We are #3 now. I
>>> >> want to be #1. I want to be able to
look at the Elected Officials
>>> >> Database and see Libertarians in
elective office all across the
>>> state.
>>> >> To get candidates who can make a serious
run at some of the higher
>>> >> offices in the state (parish
council/police jury, state rep, state
>>> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor,
ect) we need a large
>>> membership
>>> >> base. To get a large membership base we
will have to sell what we
>>> >> have and what we have is ideas. Good
ideas, yes. But ideas - and
>>> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract
concepts. They are not a hard
>>> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible
service like massage therapy.
>>> >> They require
propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting
>>> >> close to the point where we are going to
have to market our ideas and
>>> >> that is going to require an actual
marketing campaign and
>>> advertising.
>>> >> Boyd W. Smith
>>> >> Elections Officer
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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