[LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board
T Lee Horne III
Paladin at LPLouisiana.org
Sat Apr 13 01:53:36 CDT 2013
Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, regardless
of the number of people attending if there is no Secretary there is no
Quorum.
Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either
the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal
meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the
party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a
quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are
without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not
attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather
informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any
meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be
an "adjourned meeting."
T Lee Horne, III
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From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On
Behalf Of Daniel Hayes
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM
To: scc at lplouisiana.org
Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board
Meeting
We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter
what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly scheduled
and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is a regularly
called meeting.
from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed Section 40,
page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the
time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a quorum....."
The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by which an
assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum.
Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is the
legal meeting tomorrow.
In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that will
be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of Roberts Rules for
Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the proper course of action.
also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing with an
absence of a quorum"
Daniel Hayes
Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC.
On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote:
> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting is
> a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately preceding
> regular meeting or special meeting.
>
> The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a
> particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by the
> assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and place.
> If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its
> work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or
> some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the
> adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the
> time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a
> specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is
> sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special
> meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of
> adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned
> meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while
> still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it
> can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to
> continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to
> another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held
> without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a
> meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a
> quorum no matter what you call the meeting.
>
> The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in
> the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned
> meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a
> motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made
> in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned
> -
> ended, without qualification.
>
> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either
> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal
> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the
> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a
> quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are
> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not
> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather
> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any
> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be
> an "adjourned meeting."
>
> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either
> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal
> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the
> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a
> quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are
> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not
> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather
> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any
> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be
> an "adjourned meeting."
>
> T LEE HORNE, III
>
> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA
>
> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705
>
> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012
>
> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign
> 2003-2007
>
> tleehorneiii at gmail.com
>
> 318-542-4445 google voice
>
> tleehorneiii skype
>
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>
> FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org
> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone
> SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM
> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors
> SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board
> Meeting
>
> To all Board Members,
>
> Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have a
> quorum for tomorrow's meeting.
>
> I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible,
> but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice,
> especially considering the recent opposition to email voting necessary
> for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling
> just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later.
>
> Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting.
>
> It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness of
> being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the remainder
> of the term until 2016.
>
> My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in
> person for a full session for the first time.
>
> If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform
> them immediately so they can adjust their plans.
>
> I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the
> Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation.
>
> -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of
> Louisiana
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